
Couples Match
Believe it or not, it can be done! But you must realize the Couples Match isn't easy,
because now there are two people to take into account, two programs to look at, two views
of the liveability/unliveability of the city, etc. And it can be especially difficult if
one or both members of the couple have chosen particularly competitive specialties
(Anesthesia, Urology, Orthopedics, OB/GYN and sometimes even General Surgery). If you two
are not married, or are not planning any kind of committed relationship, think long and
hard before going through the Couple's Match as it will require incredible commitment and
a lot of compromise.
Also see Surviving the Couples Match
So you still want to go for it? OK, here goes:
The first thing to do is to seek a lot of advice from faculty and residents who
interviewed in your chosen field (preferably recently) about which programs to consider.
Start early (February or March) requesting information and applications on those programs
you may be interested in; you may not necessarily want to take the time to thoroughly read
each brochure at this point, you mainly just need to find out what the program needs to
consider an application "complete". We found residents who'd interviewed at the
program recently to be our best source of information. A word of advice, however, a big
name school does not guarantee a good residency program. Many of these big-name programs
are very research-oriented and/or use their residents for scut; you're probably better off
looking at them when it comes time to do a fellowship (if you so desire). But visit one or
two, because it may be what's right for you.
Next, each member of the couple should compile a list of all the programs they are
interested in and compare notes. See what places have suitable programs for both of you,
then begin to fill out those applications. Keep a file, neatly organized, of all the
places you applied to, so your information will be ready for quick reference when it comes
time to interview. If one or both members of the couple are in an "interview by
invitation only" specialty, we suggest applying to about twice as many programs as
you plan to interview at, a lot of work, but it will pay off in future results.
Interviewing: November, December and January are the best months to interview,
and if your programs require a Dean's Letter before they will think of interviewing you,
better plan to interview in December or January. Many programs will do their best to allow
you both to interview on the same day, and that will save money on hotels, etc. Plan to
take time off school. The Couple's Match requires a lot of interviewing and it is just too
difficult to arrange time off classes and clinics. Also, you sure can miss a lot of a good
rotation by interviewing in the middle of it.
During the actual interview, you will want to let the program know right away that you
are a member of a couple, and be specific about who your partner is and what department
they are interviewing in. Write down specifics about each program as soon as the interview
is over. This will be invaluable to you later when you are trying to rank programs. Or
alternatively, you can keep a running order list, adding programs in their appropriate
places after the interview. We just cannot emphasize enough writing down why you feel that
way to do about a particular program because 1) they all get jumbled after a while and 2)
you need to have reasons to bargain with later when you are compiling the Couple's Rank
Order List. Specifics to look for during the interview: 1) Contentment of the residents,
2) amount of "hands on" experience, 3) how do the programs feel about couples in
medicine? Are there any other couples in the program? Will there be any problem with call
schedule? and, of course 4) the quality of the educational program.
Once you have completed your interviewing, it's time for the two of you to make up
individual rank order lists, just for the two of you to work with. Don't worry, there will
be places you'll both like! (But will they like you both too!) Rank programs in the order
you like them, not in the order of which one is more difficult to get into. Together,
decide who will get priority-usually the person applying to the more competitive
specialty. Read the couple's section of the NRMP thoroughly, because you can do things as
a couple that you wouldn't believe! For example, if one partner likes a program well and
feels he/she has a good chance of being accepted there, but the other partner isn't so
sure about his/her chances in the respective program, the second partner may want to go
unmatched. (This is one of the reasons you should be in a committed relationship before
going through the Couple's Match). If you do decide to use some of your options as a
match-unmatched combination, we suggest that you do not select as unmatched the person
with the more competitive specialty. It is much better to both be unmatched and look for a
spot together on No-Match Day than to have one match in a rather open specialty and very
few options for the second person. Again, if you don't understand this
"unmatched" stuff, read the NRMP booklet; it is well-explained there.
The main things to remember as a couple are: 1) Make sure all programs know you're a
couple, 2) Don't rank any programs where one or both of you will be unhappy, who knows,
you may end up there and 3) Depending on what subspecialties you've chosen don't expect to
get your first choice. Remember, two independent programs are looking at two individuals,
and you will probably go pretty far down your rank list before everything
"clicks" - make sure your list is long enough!
Surviving the Couples Match
Probably the most important thing to remember with the couples match is that the two of
you have to COMMUNICATE. Let each other know what you are thinking throughout the
process. The nicest thing about matching as a couple is that you always have someone right
there to bounce ideas off of.
The second most important thing to remember is that you both will need to COMPROMISE.
It is much better for both partners to compromise a little bit and be satisfied than for
you to get everything you want and have your partner resent you for the next 20 years.
- Each of you make a separate list of the qualities that are most important to you in a
program (location, call schedule, academic vs. community, available fellowships, etc.)
- Discuss your list of qualities with each other and try to get an idea of which are most
important and which you can compromise on.
- Apply to programs that are either in the same hospital or are within 50 miles of each
other.
- Try to schedule interviews together so you will be in the same area at the same time.
Saves on hotel expenses.
- After every interview, before you talk to your partner, take 10 minutes to write
down notes about the program what you liked, what you didnt like, what you felt
about the program and the interview day. Could you work well with these people? Could you
be happy in this program for the next (3-7) years?
- Discuss the interview with your partner & see what they thought of the
program/hospital/area/people and what their interview was like.
- After your last interview, each of you sit down separately with your own notes and make
a rank list.
- Dont rank a program that you dont want to go to just because youre
afraid of not matching. It would be better to get a preliminary year spot and go through
the match again than to match at a program where you will be miserable. Youll make
the rest of the people in that residency miserable. Youll make your partner
miserable. Youll get a divorce. Youll turn to alcohol & drugs. Bad.
- Dont be cocky and rank too few programs. A few years ago, a couple went through
the match he went for Ortho, she did FP. He was the "stronger" of the two
applicants and was convinced hed get his first choice. She matched, he didnt.
Do you think there was any bitterness?
- Together, make a list of all the possible pair combinations (programs in the same
geographical area) from both of your rank lists.
- Make a pair rank list.
- I assigned numbers to each of our programs based on our individual rank lists. The
difference between the two numbers in a pair was indicative of how similarly satisfied
each of us would be. For example, a possible pair of my number 1 choice and her number 8
choice would have a difference of 7 she would have been extremely unhappy and I
would have been extremely happy
for a while. A possible pair of my number 3 choice
and her number 3 choice would have a difference of 0 we would be similarly
satisfied. Ok, so my OCD ran rampant
sue me.
- Do this far enough in advance of the submission date that if you have a disagreement
over the list, you can set it aside for a few days and come back to discuss it later.
- Input the list on NRMPs website.
- This is a royal pain in the ass.
- Both of you should have the other persons NRMP number and pass code in case there
is a problem with the list that needs to be fixed at the last minute.
- Follow the instructions on the website for registering as a couple.
- Each partner must input their half of the pair rank list into the computer separately
under their own NRMP number.
- Both of you MUST have the same number of programs listed. It will not let you certify
either list if they are unequal.
- Look up each programs NRMP number and have the entire pair rank list printed out
ahead of time. It is much easier & quicker to just input the programs NRMP
numbers in the order they appear on your rank list.
- For programs that require a prelim year, list prelim programs in the supplemental list.
- Each supplemental list should only contain programs from a certain geographical area.
Otherwise, you both may match near each other for your categorical program, but be on
opposite sides of the country for that intern year.
- You can make as many supplemental lists as you want, so make them. You can go so far as
to only list one program in each supplemental list.
- Remember that for each different supplemental list, you must have an additional ranked
pair. Confused? See the attached "pair rol."
- DOUBLE CHECK YOUR LIST BEFORE YOU REGISTER IT!
Have your mom, your dog, your great
uncle Stan check your list just to make sure there is no possible way that the two of you
could end up on opposite sides of the country.
- Thats it. Done. Now just wait for Match Day and hope for the best.
Good Luck!
Joe and Jean
Joes Rank Order List
- Boston A
- New York A
- Los Angeles A
- New York B
- Los Angeles B
- Cleveland
- Boston B
- New York C
Jeans Rank Order List
- Boston A
- New York B
- Los Angeles A
- Los Angeles B
- Cleveland
- New York A
- New York D
- Boston B
- Providence
- New York C
| |
Joe |
Sup |
R |
Jean |
Sup |
R |
D |
| |
Boston A |
- |
1 |
Boston A |
- |
1 |
0 |
| |
New York A |
B |
2 |
New York B |
B |
2 |
0 |
| |
New York A |
A |
2 |
New York B |
A |
2 |
0 |
| |
New York A |
C |
2 |
New York B |
C |
2 |
0 |
| |
Los Angeles A |
B |
3 |
Los Angeles A |
B |
3 |
0 |
| |
Los Angeles A |
A |
3 |
Los Angeles A |
A |
3 |
0 |
| |
Los Angeles A |
B |
3 |
Los Angeles B |
B |
4 |
1 |
| |
Los Angeles A |
A |
3 |
Los Angeles B |
A |
4 |
1 |
| |
Los Angeles B |
B |
5 |
Los Angeles B |
B |
4 |
1 |
| |
Los Angeles B |
A |
5 |
Los Angeles B |
A |
4 |
1 |
| |
Cleveland |
- |
6 |
Cleveland |
- |
5 |
1 |
| |
New York B |
B |
4 |
New York B |
B |
2 |
2 |
| |
New York B |
A |
4 |
New York B |
A |
2 |
2 |
| |
New York B |
C |
4 |
New York B |
C |
2 |
2 |
| |
New York B |
B |
4 |
New York A |
B |
6 |
2 |
| |
New York B |
A |
4 |
New York A |
A |
6 |
2 |
| |
New York B |
C |
4 |
New York A |
C |
6 |
2 |
| |
New York C |
- |
8 |
New York A |
A |
6 |
2 |
| |
Los Angeles B |
B |
5 |
Los Angeles A |
B |
3 |
2 |
| |
Los Angeles B |
A |
5 |
Los Angeles A |
A |
3 |
2 |
| |
Boston B |
- |
7 |
Boston B |
- |
8 |
1 |
| |
New York C |
- |
8 |
New York D |
- |
7 |
1 |
| |
Boston B |
- |
7 |
Providence |
A |
9 |
2 |
| |
Boston B |
- |
7 |
Providence |
B |
9 |
2 |
| |
New York C |
- |
8 |
New York C |
- |
10 |
2 |
| |
New York B |
A |
4 |
New York D |
- |
7 |
3 |
| |
New York A |
B |
2 |
New York A |
B |
6 |
4 |
| |
New York A |
A |
2 |
New York A |
A |
6 |
4 |
| |
New York A |
C |
2 |
New York A |
C |
6 |
4 |
| |
New York A |
A |
2 |
New York D |
- |
7 |
5 |
| |
New York B |
A |
4 |
New York C |
- |
10 |
6 |
| |
New York C |
- |
8 |
New York B |
A |
2 |
6 |
| |
Boston B |
- |
7 |
Boston A |
- |
1 |
6 |
| |
Boston A |
- |
1 |
Boston B |
- |
8 |
7 |
| |
New York A |
A |
2 |
New York C |
- |
10 |
8 |
| |
Boston A |
- |
1 |
Providence |
A |
9 |
8 |
| |
Boston A |
- |
1 |
Providence |
B |
9 |
8 |
| |
Unmatched |
|
|
Boston A |
- |
1 |
|
| |
Boston A |
- |
1 |
Unmatched |
|
|
|
| |
Unmatched |
|
|
New York B |
B |
2 |
|
| |
Unmatched |
|
|
New York B |
A |
2 |
|
| |
New York A |
A |
2 |
Unmatched |
|
|
|
| |
New York A |
C |
2 |
Unmatched |
|
|
|
| |
Unmatched |
|
|
Los Angeles A |
B |
3 |
|
| |
Los Angeles A |
B |
3 |
Unmatched |
|
|
|
| |
Unmatched |
|
|
Los Angeles B |
B |
4 |
|
| |
New York B |
A |
4 |
Unmatched |
|
|
|
| |
New York B |
C |
4 |
Unmatched |
|
|
|
| |
Unmatched |
|
|
Cleveland |
- |
5 |
|
| |
Los Angeles B |
B |
5 |
Unmatched |
|
|
|
| |
Unmatched |
|
|
New York A |
B |
6 |
|
| |
Unmatched |
|
|
New York A |
A |
6 |
|
| |
Cleveland |
- |
6 |
Unmatched |
|
|
|
| |
Unmatched |
|
|
New York D |
- |
7 |
|
| |
Boston B |
- |
7 |
Unmatched |
|
|
|
| |
Unmatched |
|
|
Boston B |
- |
8 |
|
| |
New York C |
- |
8 |
Unmatched |
|
|
|
| |
Unmatched |
|
|
Providence |
B |
9 |
|
| |
Unmatched |
|
|
New York C |
- |
10 |
|
Supplemental lists:
A New York programs
B California programs
C Pennsylvania programs
Geographically near programs:
- Highland Oakland, CA9
- Stanford Palo Alto, CA8
|
- UCLA/Olive View 8
- USC 18
- Harbor/UCLA13
? mi
- UCI 6
? mi
- Loma Linda 10
|
- Northwestern 7
- Univ Illinois 12
- Univ Chicago/Lutheran 12
- Cook County 18
- Christ Oak Lawn 9
- Resurrection 12
|
- Univ. of Michigan Ann Arbor, MI 11
- Wayne State/Detroit Med Detroit, MI12
- Wayne State/Grace Hosp Detroit, MI 8
- Henry Ford Detroit, MI 13
- St. John Hosp Detroit, MI 8
|
- Wm. Beaumont Hosp Royal Oak, MI10
|
- Summa/Akron City Akron, OH 8
- Case Western/MetroHealth Cleveland10
|
- Allegheny Gen Hosp Pittsburgh, PA8
- Univ of Pittsburgh 12
|
- York Hosp/Penn State York, PA 10
34 mi
- Univ. of Maryland Baltimore, MD10
- Johns Hopkins Baltimore, MD 12
20 mi
- George Washington Univ Wash, DC 8
- Howard Univ Wash, DC 10
|
- Christiana Care Newark, DE 12
49 mi
- UMDNJ/Rbt Wood Johnson Camden, NJ 6
- Albert Einstein Philadelphia, PA 12
- Temple Philadelphia, PA 8
- Univ of Pennsylvania Philadelphia, PA 6
|
- Jacobi Bronx 17
- NYU Bellevue NY 13
- Long Island Jewish New Hyde Park9
- Lincoln Bronx 12
- Mt. Sinai NY 10
- SUNY Brooklyn 13
- Brooklyn Hosp. Brooklyn 6
- NY Methodist Brooklyn 8
- NYMC Metropolitan Brooklyn
- SUNY Stony Brook7
- Morristown NJ(35mi from NY)6
|
- Baystate Med Springfield, MA 7
26 mi
- U.Conn Hartford/Farmington, CN 10
40 mi
- Yale New Haven, CN 7
|
- Boston City Boston 10
- Harvard Cambridge 12
- Brown Providence, RI 12
- UMass Worcester 12
|
Single outlying programs of interest:
- Emory Atlanta, GA 16
- UT Southwestern Dallas, TX 16
- Univ. Florida Jacksonville, FL13
- Univ. Arizona Tucson, AZ10
- Davis Sacramento, CA 9
Transitional programs:
- Arrowhead San Bernadino,CA
- Highland Oakland, CA
- Mercy San Diego, CA
- Santa Clara San Jose, CA
- Maimonides Brooklyn, NY
- NYMC (Sound Shore) New Rochelle, NY
- NYMC @ St. Vincents NY, NY
- Cambridge Cambridge, MA
Preliminary Programs:
- Santa Barbara Cottage Santa Barbara, CA
- Santa Clara San Jose, CA
- St. Mary Long Beach, CA
- UCLA LA, CA
- UCLA San Fernando Sepulveda, CA
- White Mem. LA, CA
- Cook County Chicago, IL
- U. Illinois/Michael Reese Chicago, IL
- George Washington Washington, DC
- Long Island Jewish NY
- Beth Israel NY
- Bronx/Lebanon Bronx, NY
- Brookdale Brooklyn, NY
- NYMC (Our Lady of Mercy) Bronx, NY
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